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Mark Goodrich Guest

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Posted: Tue Oct 6th, 2009 11:44 pm |
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for my big Emerson circulator (see ad in BST) and as always I get an immediate response from someone, always with similar wording:
"Thanks for your response,am pleased with the pics and willing to pay the asking price for this Item.And I would have love to come for the viewing but due to my work frame that might not be possible.,So i will be making the payment to you via a Money Order or cashier check for the cost of this item.So I'll like you to provide me with the following information so as to notify the payment for the item.full name to be on the Money Order,home or work address and phone # likewise, the payment will be made in excess in which you will be sending the remaining balance on the payment to my movers who will later come for the pick up of the item as soon as the payment is confirmed."
Right, I'll send all that information immediately. Here's the part I don't understand: is this some stupid attempt to get my name/address for ID thievery purposes, or is it just the first salvo in an even stupider attempt to have me end up sending money to a cousin in Africa? What's the scam?
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Russ Huber AFCA Member

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Posted: Tue Oct 6th, 2009 11:59 pm |
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Respond to the dude. Set up a date and time you will meet his movers with the fan at a PUBLIC LOCATION of YOUR choice near you. Have his movers ready with CASH in hand. See what his response is. Or.... ask him to take a day of vacation.  Last edited on Wed Oct 7th, 2009 12:00 am by Russ Huber
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Tom Dreesen AFCA Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 12:30 am |
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There must be a "school" where these bozos get the verbage for the attempted scam. It is always the same. I sell a lot on CL and have seen them all. Over the summer, the excuse on a number of them was "on honeymoon in Hawaii". They are always from a gmail or hotmail account and they avoid the mail because of mail fraud avoidance. Just delete them.
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Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 12:33 am |
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Hey Mark, make sure you do not respond to that clown as that is the latest form of scam going around. The M.O. will either be stolen or almost certainly a fake.
Either way you would be held liable for the whole amount of the money order and you are out a fan. I make my living on the internet, I know these scumbags and their tactics a mile away! And to top that off, many states police departments do not handle fraud for under the amount of $500. Lots of time, money and grief for nothing.
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Steve Sherwood AFCA Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 12:34 am |
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This is a big scam. I would follow through a little and see what happens. Of course the payment method will not be legitimate.
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Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 12:44 am |
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Mark, they are trying to get you to send "good" money after they send you "bad "money. After you send it, they cash it. When you try to cash their money order, it takes some time for it to bounce, but by then it is too late. They all ready have your "real money" . Old scam, but still works on unsuspecting victims. I would not respond at all, just delete.
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Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 12:47 am |
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Mark Goodrich wrote: Here's the part I don't understand: is this some stupid attempt to get my name/address for ID thievery purposes, or is it just the first salvo in an even stupider attempt to have me end up sending money to a cousin in Africa? What's the scam?
Mark - the answer to your question is 'all of the above'. Don't reply but I would report it on the scam part of Craig's List.
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Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 01:23 am |
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I never had any intention of responding, I understand it's a scam. I'm guessing the counterfeit M.O. is the deal, but jeez, what a lot of trouble for a pittance. I get these with every CL listing I put up.
My current favorite is the frantic email responses telling me I don't need to sell all my things to buy groceries, thank goodness there's an answer, just reply.....
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Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 01:42 am |
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| Mark - my favorites are the ones with headlines like 'DEARLY BELOVED IN CHRIST' or some title like from the 'President of the Republic of (whatever)'. The sad part is that some people fall for it. An otherwise intelligent friend of mine wanted to reply to one we figured out was from Nigeria. He wanted to reply 'just to find out if it was real'. Talked him out of that -
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Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 01:54 am |
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| I had a guy send me a lot of counterfeit Postal Money Orders once. I suspected they were bogus. Took them to the PO. The clerk looked at them, looked at me, and said "Who sent you these!?" Nigeria of course.
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Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 02:40 am |
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Jeanne Davis wrote: Mark Goodrich wrote: Here's the part I don't understand: is this some stupid attempt to get my name/address for ID thievery purposes, or is it just the first salvo in an even stupider attempt to have me end up sending money to a cousin in Africa? What's the scam?
Mark - the answer to your question is 'all of the above'. Don't reply but I would report it on the scam part of Craig's List.
Second that--first step for any con is to rope you into conversation. I get these for just about anything that I post for about $200 or more, I guess that's the threshold for fishing.
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