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Brandon Tuomikoski
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 04:17 pm
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Got an email from a lady who has to "very old fans"

She says one is only blades and the motor with nothing else.
That is a
GE 5ksp51el 2h

???? Cant find anything on it.

The other is a
Fanmaster #47846

Any info appreciated!

Brandon
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 07:59 pm
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Brandon Tuomikoski wrote:
Got an email from a lady who has to "very old fans"

She says one is only blades and the motor with nothing else.
That is a
GE 5ksp51el 2h

???? Cant find anything on it.
That's not a number that I recognize at all from any "very old" GE fan. Maybe you can get the other info off the fan's tag.

Not familiar with a Fanmaster but sounds like something newer or, at least, post 1935.
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 08:03 pm
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Yea I was not sure. I will email back and request more info.
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 08:26 pm
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Brandon......whoa!
Isn't this a fun hobby? Do you know how fast a collection can grow? Maybe not but pretty darn fast. Fans aren't going away any time soon but the good ones are slowly getting harder to find. Take some time to learn a bit more first and try to narrow down what type, size, era, etc. fans you would like to collect.

As with most new collectors, the temptation is there to buy almost every decent old fan you come across. I have a long list of fans no longer in my possession because I, too, bought many fans that I "grew out of' once I learned more and saw more neat fans.

Join the AFCA, study the large photos of the fans in the gallery which you will then be able to see as a member. Make some wish lists and look for those fans while keeping an eye open for other neat fans you might encounter.

Stay away from the makes with proplems or ones that weren't made all that well. That is unless you love them.

R&M, GE, Westinghouse, Emerson. All are top quality makes made in great numbers but with plenty of rare individual models. Look for brass blades but there are some excellent fans made after the brass blade era pretty much ending in 1930. I have 3 Daytons in my collection and I like them all. ALL have frozen but not broken necks. Dayton's have a problem. Century had a love affair with pot metal but their earliest fans from the mid teens were devoid of the pot metal blues and are great fans.

Save your money into a fan fund and buy fewer, better fans. You will be glad you did later in your collecting life. You can get excellent early fans (pre-1910 for instance) in a Westy or R&M tank or a GE Big Motor Yoke for around $100-150. Those old and common (because they were so good) Emerson 29646 and similar models should be in most collectors' hands sooner or later. If you get a Westinghouse stamped steel motor; they are great fans but get one with a good headwire to the motor as it's a tough!!!!!! thing to change the wire. R&Ms are often underappreciated but great fans.

And so on and so on. Join the AFCA for a start. The cost will easily be repaid in what you learn. Go to an AFCA regional meet and meet other collectors; get your fan looked at or worked on. But don't try to get too many fans too soon. Look for some really good fans. You can't beat a good GE pancake from 1900-1907 and the later ones aren't all that expensive; maybe in the $300-500 range. OK, that is expensive for many people but the reward of saving for such a fan, especially pre-1906, is well worth the sacrafice. Happy hunting.
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 08:40 pm
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Haha. Thanks

Right now, all the money I have is going to restoring my 1929 hoover vacuum, but after that, I plan on putting money into fan collecting.

Craigslist has been my hero for my collecting of stuff. I have found many rare vacuums on there. Also after posting my ad looking for vintage fans, I have had about 20 replys of people with fans. Thats where the Dayton came from.

Also I got a reply from someone with a RESTORED Emerson silver swan for $100.
And another interesting one is some brown 1940s fan.


Here are a few pics of those.

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Brandon Tuomikoski
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 08:41 pm
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And here is the other one. The brand is unknown.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 08:44 pm
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Brandon Tuomikoski wrote: And here is the other one. The brand is unknown.
Looks like a Sterling.
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 09:03 pm
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Brandon Tuomikoski wrote:
Haha. Thanks

Right now, all the money I have is going to restoring my 1929 hoover vacuum, but after that, I plan on putting money into fan collecting.

Craigslist has been my hero for my collecting of stuff. I have found many rare vacuums on there. Also after posting my ad looking for vintage fans, I have had about 20 replys of people with fans. Thats where the Dayton came from.

Also I got a reply from someone with a RESTORED Emerson silver swan for $100.
And another interesting one is some brown 1940s fan.


Here are a few pics of those.

Well Brandon, it sounds like you know how to get to the goods. And it sounds like you learn fast. No need for a private message to me, as there is no doubt in my mind you'll find your way on that Dayton fan. Ooooh...by the way...that last unidentified fan you posted is from Chicago Electric manufacturing Co.(Sterling) :up:
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 09:08 pm
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Ah ok.

Yea so far Ive found (but not bought except for the Dayton)
Dayton- $30
Emerson ??? $15
GE Vortalex (silver)- ?40?
Emerson Silver swan- $100
That sterling- $30
And several other yet to be determined of their brand and value.

Im hoping my mom and dad will support me on this, and help purchase some of these, if they are worth it. My grandfather has several fans that were original to his home which was built in 1915. I recall seeing at least 4-5 different ones so far.
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 09:09 pm
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That silver swan is a sweet fan!
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 Posted: Sat Oct 17th, 2009 01:56 pm
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Nice fans, The unidentified fan is a Handy Breeze, you can always tell those by the carrying handles on back.
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 Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 03:25 am
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I dont want to start up a new thread for this-

But tomorrow I am picking up an Emerson 70040-A fan. What is the approximate age of that fan, so I know where to post pictures of it.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 05:56 am
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Brandon,
I don't see any Emersons with that TYPE number in the fan collector book. Maybe you misread the tag or the number is a serial number, not the TYPE number that's needed to identify Emersons.
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 Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 02:09 pm
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Well here is a picture if that helps

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 Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 03:21 pm
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Looks like a 79648 from around 1940.

A pretty nice one on ebay now-
http://cgi.ebay.com/VTG-EMERSON-3-SPEED-ELECTRIC-FAN-WORKS-GREAT-OSC-16_W0QQitemZ120481869237QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c0d476db5#ht_1239wt_1167

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