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Russ Huber AFCA Member

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Posted: Mon Oct 26th, 2009 04:51 am |
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Posted: Mon Oct 26th, 2009 05:15 am |
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Hi Russ,
That seems more than ephemera to me. I just wrote a long and involved article for the Fan Collector Magazine about my 24646 and I wish I had this gold mine of information to help me out. Is there anything interesting in there about the 24, 27, and 29 series I should know about? Thanks.
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Posted: Mon Oct 26th, 2009 05:43 am |
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David Hunter wrote:
Hi Russ,
That seems more than ephemera to me. I just wrote a long and involved article for the Fan Collector Magazine about my 24646 and I wish I had this gold mine of information to help me out. Is there anything interesting in there about the 24, 27, and 29 series I should know about? Thanks.
I'm sure you did just fine David. Facts, I have only read just the surface of this...ephemera....so far. I think it is just cool to look at it as it is. That is why I decided...what ta heck. 
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Posted: Mon Oct 26th, 2009 03:19 pm |
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| Thank is fantastic ephemera to have nonetheless. I hope you share with us some interesting tidbits when you have time.
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Posted: Mon Oct 26th, 2009 03:22 pm |
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David, the ephemera posted is an October blessing, effective....yesterday. But...based on the information I saw for your article, my statement in the above post to you still stands. 
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Posted: Tue Oct 27th, 2009 08:14 am |
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David Hunter wrote:
Hi Russ,
Is there anything interesting in there about the 24, 27, and 29 series I should know about? Thanks.
The 24xxx AC series came in 25,50,60,and 133 cycles. I see the 50 cycle was offered in a residential(6 wing). All I see in the 25 and 133 cycles for the 24xxx series are 12 and 16" 4 wing models. DC models offered 9,12,16"
The 27xxx AC series came in 25,50,and 60 cycles. Yet another 6 wing residential in 50 cycles. It only lists parts for the 25 cycle in 16". DC models offered 9,12,16"
The 26xxx AC series came in 25,50,and 60 cycles. Jim McLaughlin's authentic Emerson data type number listings dated for 25 puts the 26xxx models from 19-24. His data also includes a 26266(25 cycle non-oscillating 6 wing residential) NOT included on my 17-20 parts list with 26xxx models. Dc models offered 9,12,16".
The 28xxx series came in 9,12,16" AC(60 cycles) and DC.
The 29xxx AC series came in 25,and 60 cycles. The 25 cycle models are listed as a 4 wing 16" and.....a 6 wing residential. DC models offered 9,12,16" Bye now.
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Posted: Tue Oct 27th, 2009 08:18 am |
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Russ, I suggested that David contact you to see if you might share the info in that one publication (Spare Parts for Emerson Fans 1917-1920 Models) which might help him with terminology of certain parts for the article he is writing for the Fan Collector about his 24646. He had asked me about some parts and we didn't know what to call them. I don't know exactly what may be in that one booklet...just wondering...
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Posted: Tue Oct 27th, 2009 03:29 pm |
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Steve Stephens wrote:
Russ, I suggested that David contact you to see if you might share the info in that one publication (Spare Parts for Emerson Fans 1917-1920 Models) which might help him with terminology of certain parts for the article he is writing for the Fan Collector about his 24646. He had asked me about some parts and we didn't know what to call them. I don't know exactly what may be in that one booklet...just wondering...
Steve
There really is no need Steve. Many times I see people seeking information that is already right at there finger tips here. There are members of past and present that have shared and gone through the trouble to put goodies in the INFO section of the AFCA. Yet, people obviously never, or very rarely visit what has been offered.
Chuck Brandt must of had a 36 Emerson parts catalog with exploded diagrams and parts description like I have. It is in the INFO section. Have David simply click his way there and click on the AC desk fan link. Everything he seeks in terminology for most part is there...with the exception of what we call the BALL DETENT. The correct terminology for this unique oscillating wheel is...Ratchet case.
The Emerson sales division must of sent out numbered parts bulletins to business's that sold and serviced their line of fans. Exactly how often the parts bulletins were issued from Emerson I am not sure. At least once every year I would think based on product line changes. What gives me a charge is how personalized they can be. Some are hand typed and signed, with catalog for that season included. Oooooh..the good ole days. I got fortunate enough that someone didn't chuck of few of them into the circular file like most. Think of all of those 25, 50, and 133 cycle fans that went to the dump, along with a chunk of the DCs.  Last edited on Tue Oct 27th, 2009 03:32 pm by Russ Huber
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Posted: Tue Oct 27th, 2009 04:15 pm |
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| One more thing I forgot to mention. That spare parts bulletin from 17-20, was issued in 29. Not to long ago I auctioned a 14644 104 VAC Emerson model. The base did not have cast in speed numbers and the speed selection was high to low. Emerson was obviously offering replacement parts for 14644 11-12 fan in the 20s. Last edited on Tue Oct 27th, 2009 04:15 pm by Russ Huber
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Posted: Wed Oct 28th, 2009 03:40 am |
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Russ HuberChuck Brandt must of had a 36 Emerson parts catalog with exploded diagrams and parts description like I have. It is in the INFO section. Have David simply click his way there and click on the AC desk fan link. Everything he seeks in terminology for most part is there...with the exception of what we call the BALL DETENT. The correct terminology for this unique oscillating wheel is...Ratchet case.
This is why your catalogs are a gold mine Russ. Yes, I looked at the old catalogs already on this forum and what I found was that Emerson called the ball detent on the 24 series simply, "oscillator mechanism". I wrestled with the term "ball detent" for days (inducing headaches) because I could not find it in the Emerson literature. I also did not find the term, "ratchet case". Interesting.Last edited on Wed Oct 28th, 2009 03:40 am by David Hunter
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Posted: Wed Oct 28th, 2009 03:49 am |
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David Hunter wrote:
[ I wrestled with the term "ball detent" for days (inducing headaches) because I could not find it in the Emerson literature. I also did not find the term, "ratchet case". Interesting.
Might "ratchet case" refer to only PART of the ball detent mechanism; the part that holds the ratchet and balls and lever?
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Posted: Wed Oct 28th, 2009 06:35 am |
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Hmmmmm. David, if you go to the INFO section and go into REFERENCE MATERIAL, you are going to find Chuck Brandt's 36 Emerson parts catalog scans. It is a MEMBERS ONLY section. This is not on the FORUM...it is in the INFO section. Chuck has an exploded view of a EMERSON AC DESK FAN And DC DESK FAN....with....Parts numbered and their EMERSON terminology. I made mention in my previous post above that the RATCHET case would not be included in Chuck's scans. But...now it is CLEAR that the BALL DETENT is in EMERSON terminology...the RATCHET CASE. I also above took the time to go through that smelly old piece of Ephemra and Jim Mclaughlin's Emerson survey IN THE INFO SECTION and give you ALL the fan models you seek and ...more..for your story. Can't wait to read it. Amen fan brothers...rock on! 
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