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Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 08:18 pm |
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Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 08:30 pm |
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You know, based on how the title of the picture is worded, I think it may actually be a (wind) generator that we're looking at rather than an electric motor fan. 
"Northern Motor Driving Ventilating Fan"
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Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 09:00 pm |
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Northern Electrical Mfg. Co. ....Madison, Wisconsin. 
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 03:16 am |
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Nicholas Denney wrote:
You know, based on how the title of the picture is worded, I think it may actually be a (wind) generator that we're looking at rather than an electric motor fan.
"Northern Motor Driving Ventilating Fan"
Psssst...the ventilating fan was more than likely made by another company USING(DRIVING)a Northern motor. 
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 03:38 am |
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Russ Huber wrote: Nicholas Denney wrote:
You know, based on how the title of the picture is worded, I think it may actually be a (wind) generator that we're looking at rather than an electric motor fan.
"Northern Motor Driving Ventilating Fan"
Psssst...the ventilating fan was more than likely made by another company USING(DRIVING)a Northern motor.
What companies used them?
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 03:52 am |
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Northern may of made the ventilator, but based on lack of patent so far...I kinda doubt it. Madison, WI. is not far from Chicago, Ill. Who was cooking in Chicago in the early 1900s? .......Robert ILG. But...that is just a shot in the dark.
Northern turn of the century motor. Cool stuff. 
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=uVlJAAAAEBAJ&dq=773930
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 09:54 am |
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| Actually Bob Ilg was cooking in the Southern Heat...New Orleans. The company moved to Chicago sometime in the 1920's and formally became an IL company in '36
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 01:38 pm |
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Actually Bob Ilg was cooking in the Southern Heat...New Orleans. The company moved to Chicago sometime in the 1920's and formally became an IL company in '36
THE ILG ELECTRIC VENTILATING COMPANY
This admirable Chicago corporation has the distinction of being the largest concern in the United States giving exclusive attention to the manufacturing of ventilating apparatus, and the methods and policies involved in the prosecution of the business are of the most approved order, making for the maximum of success and for efficiency of service in every department. There is full measure of consistency in the following statements from one of the catalogues issued by the company: "Our plant is operated under a comprehensive system of profitsharing with employes, and our product is the result of the best conscientious efforts of skilled mechanics." The output of the large and well ordered manufactory includes self-cooled, direct-connected electric motor propeller fans; automatic shutters or louvers, for the protection of fans and duct openings; universal centrifugal blowers, direct connected to self-cooled electric motors, as well as for belt drive; self-cooled electric motors for all commercial circuits; and general ventilating specialties. Particular features of the products have been thus designatedi "Designed so as to use a minimum of parts; substantial and strong where strength is needed; unnecessary weight eliminated; all parts interchangeable ; highest economy in power consumption.''
The general offices and works of the Ilg Electric Ventilating Company are situated at Whiting and Wells streets, Chicago, and branches are maintained in the cities of New York, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Detroit, Boston and Cincinnati, with Canadian offices at Gait, Ontario. The Ilg selfcooled motor propeller fan, invented and perfected by Robert A. Ilg, founder of the company, is protected by basic patents in both the United States and Canada, and the same conditions maintain also in connection with his volume and pressure blowers and exhausters, recognized as the most perfect devices of the kind extant. Catalogues and other incidental literature issued by the company give adequate description of the various products, and in this article it is unnecessary to touch such details. The definite superiority of the Ilg fans and blowers would alone have proved adequate to insure in their manufacture the development of a successful industrial enterprise, but, farther than this, there have been devised and utilizcd the most progressive policies and systems of efficiency in the handling of the business, so that the success element has been splendidly reinforced. The fair and generous system of co-operation that has been adopted in connection with the employes of the company has proved most potent in the establishing of close and sympathetic relations and insuring to employes financial returns in consonance with the consecutive advancement of the business controlled by the company. The wise profit-sharing plan that has been placed in commission has inured greatly to the basic efficiency of operations, and the company has otherwise made the best of modern provisions for the health and comfort of employes, including the installation of shower baths and a swimming pool.
This noteworthy industrial enterprise was founded in 1904, by Robert A. Ilg, who engaged, in a small way, the manufacturing of his inventions, though it was not until 1906 that he received letters patent on his electric fans and blowers. His original headquarters, at 20 West Kinzie street, utilized only four hundred square feet of floor space, and during the first two years his corps of assistant's averaged about ten employes. In 1906 the business was incorporated, with Samuel W. Weis as president and Mr. lly as secretary and treasurer, Mr. Weis being still president of the company but being not active in the directing of its executive affairs. Since 1910 John M. Frank has been vice-president of the corporation, and in that year the well established business was removed to its present elegible location, at Whiting and Wells streets. Prior to the incorporation the annual business amounted to an average of three thousand dollars, and by 1910 the sales had attained to an annual average of fifty-two thousand dollars. In the removal to the new location the force of employes was increased to about forty and there was a supplied requisition for eighteen thousand square feet of floor space. In 1915 was erected an addition to the plant, and early in the year 1917 an insistent requirement for more space led to the completion of still another addition, with the result that the company now has available and in full use an aggregate floor space of fifty thousand square feet, while constant employment is given to a corps of one hundred and ten persons, including a large contingent of skilled artisans. The products of this finely equipped factory are now sold in all sections of the United States and Canada, and even prior to the great war a substantial export trade had been developed in European countries. The substantial industrial enterprise is based on the admirable patents of the company's secretary and treasurer, who is a man of exceptional mechanical and inventive talent and who has shown also remarkable initiative and executive ability in connection with the upbuilding of the business. The Ilg Electric Ventilating Company has membership representation in the Chicago Association of Commerce and the Illinois Manufacturers' Association.
SAMUEL W. WEIS
Samuel W. Weis has been president of the company since its incorporation in 1906.
He is a native of Natchez, Miss., but has made his home in New Orleans, La. for many years. He received his schooling in the Public Schools of New Orleans, La., Phillips Exeter Academy, Exeter, New Hampshire, and Massachusetts Institute of Technology of Boston.
Mr. Weis is not actively connected with the conduct of the business, but lends his hand in a advisory capacity. In New Orleans he is a member of the firm of J. Weis & Company, one of the largest and most successful banking and cotton companies in the South. Mr. Weis is very prominent in civic affairs in New Orleans, being one of the directors of the Art Museum and is connected with many Charities in an executive way. He was recently appointed member of the State Board of Defense for the State of Louisiana.
JOHN M. FRANK
John M. Frank, the vice-president since 1910, is a recognized expert in the field of applied electricity, especially in electrical machinery and prior to identifing himself with the company of which he is now vice-president he has been for three years in the service of the Chicago Edison Company. He has proved in both a technical and administrative way a most able coadjutor of Mr. Ilg and has done most to further the success of the company. Mr. Frank is a native of the city of Natchez, Mississippi, and is a graduate of the celebrated Massachusetts Institute of Technology, in the city of Boston.
ROBERT A. 1LG
The progressive secretary and treasurer of the above mentioned company, which bears his name, was born in Paris, France. Later the family removed to Germany, where Robert A. continued to attend the excellent national schools until he was about eleven years of age. In 1890 came to the United States and established a home in the city of San Francisco, California. There the subject of this review attended the public schools about two years, and at the age of fourteen years he there entered upon an apprenticeship to the trade of electrician with the Pacific Power Company. He applied himself with diligence and ambition and gained a broad and thorough knowledge of electricity as applied in a practical way. He continued to be steadily employed at his trade in San Francisco until 1899, when, at the age of twenty years, he came to Chicago and entered the employ of the Western Electric Company, with which he continued his service nine months. He then became associated with the Chicago Edison Company, and he continued in charge of one of its sub-stations for the ensuing four years, at the expiration of which he founded in a modest way the business with which he has since been identified and which has grown under his direction to be one of the important industrial enterprises of the western metropolis. He has been secretary and treasurer of the Ilg Electric Ventilating Company from the time of its incorporation.
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 02:05 pm |
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| Psssst....The Pres.....Sammy Weis must of sat in comfy big ole leather bound chair in New Orleans with a fat cigar in his mouth. He then proceeded to call Franky and Bob up in the windy city of Chicago and tell just how high to jump.
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 04:39 pm |
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According to Robert Ilg's granddaughter, they came over from Germany by way of New Orleans, where Robert's mother was a au pair for a high society New Orleans couple's children. It was he who invested intially to start the company....possibly Weis? The Louisiana Secretary of State still has the start and ending paperwork for Ilg Hot Air Electric Ventilation Company on file.
Per those documents, the company was founded on 11/09/1906.
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 04:52 pm |
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Andrew Block wrote:
Actually Bob Ilg was cooking in the Southern Heat...New Orleans. The company moved to Chicago sometime in the 1920's and formally became an IL company in '36
With all due respects Andrew, what does this have to do with your first post quoted above. I can't find a ILG patent from Bobby directed to a factory in Orleans. I can't find anything connecting ILG to a factory in Orleans. Maybe Loren knows something I don't know?  20 West Kinzie Street(above) puts Robert ILG in Chicago in 04 dude.
Psssst...the ILG company in Chicago was incorporated in 06.
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=cYBRAAAAEBAJ&dq=957776Last edited on Fri Oct 30th, 2009 05:12 pm by Russ Huber
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 08:10 pm |
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I don't know Russ, this company was quite a mess it seems. Here's the "ILG blade" patent from '39 and it lists it as assigned to ILG Electric Ventilating Company, Chicago IL, a corporation of Louisiana.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=Hq9HAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=fan+wheel+ILG&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q=fan%20wheel%20ILG&f=false
Perhaps tax purposes? I know the ILG had a branch in an old industrial building on Conti Street near the french quarter and the granddaughter tells of her fathers "wild times" living down here. Who knows!
This patent from '44 lists it as a Delaware Corporation, definitely a tax thing!
http://www.google.com/patents?id=tSVfAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=ILG+Electric&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q=ILG%20Electric&f=false
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 08:44 pm |
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Andrew, The mess here is not ILG. ILG was an established ventilation business in Chicago with branch divisions. The thing messing you up is your are splicing ILG and the legal entity CORPORATION. Go to wikipedia and get a good dose of Delaware General Corporate Law and then...you'll see the real definition of Corporate. It's all about.... Money money money monnnney.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware_General_Corporation_LawLast edited on Fri Oct 30th, 2009 08:46 pm by Russ Huber
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 10:40 pm |
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Jeez Russ. Of all the people to rely exclusively on what you can find online ...
You have the paperwork on file in Louisiana, you have family history that puts them in downtown New Orleans.
What else do you want???
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Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 12:13 am |
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| Andrew, Dressen is right. I don't know the absolute truth. The information I gained is entirely web based. I have stated myself in past post that you cannot rely on the validity of web based sources. Yet...at times it sucks me in like water into a sponge. Sorry.
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Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 01:56 am |
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Psssssst...Andrew...check it out...the book is copyrighted 17.
http://books.google.com/books?id=nkNGAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA183&lpg=PA183&dq=Ilg+electric+ventilating+company&source=bl&ots=pt2K3Y6CNa&sig=4Csq2hFEYUMREUPDuD7qNEAD8HE&hl=en&ei=i5frSpPRH47qMcWxhYQM&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CB8Q6AEwBzgK#v=onepage&q=&f=false
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