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Dale Keever
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 02:18 pm |
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| Not sure if it ever had a badge but everything else was there. Attached Image (viewed 294 times):
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Dale Keever
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 02:19 pm |
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Dale Keever
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 02:20 pm |
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Dale Keever
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 02:21 pm |
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Larry Hancock
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 02:43 pm |
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| Nice work Dale!!!!
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 02:55 pm |
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| Dale: That looks GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 03:12 pm |
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Dale,
Nice work. I have one of these but it needs a cage.
Randy Rohr
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Russ Huber
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 03:48 pm |
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Cool Beans Dale! 
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 03:54 pm |
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| Dale, the early versions of these and the similar Peerless fans did not have a cage badge but the later ones did.
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 03:55 pm |
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| Beautiful fan and beautiful restoration. One of the things I love about fan collecting is that talented and artistic people take what other folks would consider junk and turn it into a work of art.
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Steve Cunningham
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 04:26 pm |
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| If memory serves me, the early oscillators had no knob on top the transmissions.
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Steve Stephens
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 04:34 pm |
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Steve Cunningham wrote:
If memory serves me, the early oscillators had no knob on top the transmissions.
I don't remember ever seeing a knob on top of this style of oscillator gearbox. Anyone have a photo of one?
Edit: Whoops, I didn't see that Steve said "NO" knob on the top of the oscillator. Had I noticed what is plainly there I would have not made this post. He's correct; no knob on early Peerless and Colonial front oscillators.Last edited on Tue Nov 10th, 2009 11:54 pm by Steve Stephens
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Russ Huber
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 04:45 pm |
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Steve Stephens wrote:
Steve Cunningham wrote:
If memory serves me, the early oscillators had no knob on top the transmissions.
I don't remember ever seeing a knob on top of this style of oscillator gearbox. Anyone have a photo of one?
Go to the fan gallery and check out a side view of Peter Biniaz's example.
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 04:50 pm |
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| Russ, that's a completely different and later model with much different construction.
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Dale Keever
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 07:42 pm |
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Thanks. Larry, Ron, Randy, Russ and Jeanne for your kind words.
Steve, Steve and Russ after doing a little research I believe this fan is a late 1910 or 1911 model because in 1912 Colonial had a thumb-screw on the bottom of the oscillator to change the degree of oscillation. Also, they changed the oscillating gear in 1912 to rotate 1/2 the speed of the 1911 fan. My fan oscillates very fast and that would have been a needed improvement. Russ, I have a fan like what Peter Biniaz's shows in the gallery, it has a 8" wing span and is a later model with the thumb-screw on the bottom of the front oscillator. I do have a question, since Peerless and Colonial were both located in Warren, Ohio and shared the same front oscillator set up who developed the front oscillator first, Colonial or Peerless?
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Russ Huber
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 08:09 pm |
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Steve Stephens wrote:
Russ, that's a completely different and later model with much different construction.
Different doo dabs...same principle. 
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 08:22 pm |
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This is from Darryl Hudson's website fan history. I bet Happy Haroldson of Minnisoda may of had his fingers in the pie on the information. 
"Some of the earliest Peerless electric fans that we know of are the ornate based, filigree backed, “spin-start” models of the c.1903 period. During this time, Peerless fan cages had a large open center ring on the front of the guard with ten “S” wires radiating out to the front ring. The rear ring of the cage was square, similar to the Westinghouse guard of this period. Motor housings and bases are of heavy cast iron and quite ornate. Some years later, about the 1910 period, Peerless did something no other electric fan manufacturer did, and that was to build a “front oscillator” model. Most manufacturers put the gearbox that has the oscillating mechanism on the back of the motor, but Peerless put theirs on the front of the motor. Another interesting attribute of early Peerless fans is the knuckle joint just under the motor that looks a lot like a universal joint on a drive shaft. Early Peerless fans had tab bases. The tab base went away c.1915 and bases then became round with no tabs. Sometime c.1918 cages became steel and motor housings and bases became stamped steel rather than cast iron".
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Russ Huber
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 08:35 pm |
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Here is the king of front oscillators Dale. Patent filed in 09 makes it a possiblity it was produced in 09?...10 for sure. I think that Peerless trunnion in the patent link is one of the first times I have seen a table fan patent with the use of the word...Trunnion. That would be in 1900.
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=B1VbAAAAEBAJ&dq=961703
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=1gBSAAAAEBAJ&dq=676441 (use of the word trunnion)Last edited on Tue Nov 10th, 2009 08:36 pm by Russ Huber
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Steve Cunningham
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 10:25 pm |
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| Dale, if you have the 8" Peerless front oscillator, you have a scarce fan. Mike Breedlove once said the only difference in Peerless and Colonial fans was one cage spoke and the tags. Lesser known fans from the same maker were sold under the ames Commercial Electric, Star Electric and Warren Electric. Let Darryl know his text is incorrect on Peerless. Peerless made the "kick start". Dayton made the Spin Start fans.
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Dale Keever
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 10:54 pm |
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Steve, I miss-spoke the oscillator adjustment is on the top not the bottom. This is an 8" front oscillator that I restored (to some degree) several year ago. I think is was manufactured about 1914 but am not sure.
Russ, you answered the question with the patent information.
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Dale Keever
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 10:55 pm |
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 11:29 pm |
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Dale,
Impressive restoration and beautiful color choice. Wish it belonged to me !!!
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Posted: Wed Nov 11th, 2009 02:41 am |
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Steve Cunningham wrote: Peerless made the "kick start". Dayton made the Spin Start fans.
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=8flcAAAAEBAJ&dq=727411
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Posted: Wed Nov 11th, 2009 03:08 am |
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Holy metal polish Batman!
Thats incredible! Doesn't even look like the same fan!
Perfect restoration! 
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Posted: Thu Nov 12th, 2009 11:55 pm |
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| Its so satisfying when you take a pile of parts and make them into something beautiful!
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Posted: Fri Nov 13th, 2009 01:28 am |
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| Very nice job Dale. That fan is a looker!
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