| Author | Post |
|---|
Evan Atkinson
AFCA Member
| Joined: | Tue Apr 18th, 2006 |
| Location: | Los Angeles, California USA |
| Posts: | 785 |
| Favorite Fan: | Backus ceiling fans 1890's |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 08:37 am |
|
| What am I doing wrong? There is no irregularity in the vertical S cage wires that I can see. Removed the heavy-duty bracketry to get the cage off, and I cannot see how this thing comes apart!
|
John Fengel
AFCA Member
| Joined: | Mon Nov 14th, 2005 |
| Location: | Temple Texas |
| Posts: | 689 |
| Favorite Fan: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 03:17 pm |
|
| What's the model and brand name of the fan you're working on?
|
Evan Atkinson
AFCA Member
| Joined: | Tue Apr 18th, 2006 |
| Location: | Los Angeles, California USA |
| Posts: | 785 |
| Favorite Fan: | Backus ceiling fans 1890's |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 04:49 pm |
|
John, it's a 16" Type C-16, Cat. 265, Serial A B. The cage has a pattern like a big swoopy S turned on it's side. A long thin rectangular badge on the left says Hunter, and on the right it says Zephair.
People are telling me this cage comes apart by pressure. It must, because I can see no way at all of removing it over the blades. Not enough up-down, back-and-forth room.
|
Evan Atkinson
AFCA Member
| Joined: | Tue Apr 18th, 2006 |
| Location: | Los Angeles, California USA |
| Posts: | 785 |
| Favorite Fan: | Backus ceiling fans 1890's |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 04:52 pm |
|
| This is the fan. The original blade on my project fan looks different though. More mickey-mouse eared. This fan has a blade I've not noticed before on a Hunter. Attached Image (viewed 111 times):
 Last edited on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 04:54 pm by Evan Atkinson
|
John Fengel
AFCA Member
| Joined: | Mon Nov 14th, 2005 |
| Location: | Temple Texas |
| Posts: | 689 |
| Favorite Fan: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 05:00 pm |
|
Evan;
I just looked at one I have in the shop. The front half of the Cage comes off in a similar fashion as an Emerson 77646 series fan. There should be 4 "hooks" connecting the Front half to the back. I grab the Cage at the hook, one at a time, with both hands and apply pressure on the front half to move the wire under and off the hook. Just like removing the front half from an Emerson. Someone may have pinched the hooks closed on yours. If so, you'll have to open them back up.
If you decide to do anything to the small badges, be careful removing them as the tabs will break off. Also, don't polish to heavily or you will remove the plating. I believe they are brass.
Hope this helps.
John
|
Evan Atkinson
AFCA Member
| Joined: | Tue Apr 18th, 2006 |
| Location: | Los Angeles, California USA |
| Posts: | 785 |
| Favorite Fan: | Backus ceiling fans 1890's |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 08:00 pm |
|
Thanks John. When you say hooks, I assume you mean the "strut wires" which have the aluminum clips on them? They look like hooks. Those are what swing open? They seemed welded to the cage... Perhaps it's something different. I'll have to look at it this evening.
It does help, thanks.
|
John Fengel
AFCA Member
| Joined: | Mon Nov 14th, 2005 |
| Location: | Temple Texas |
| Posts: | 689 |
| Favorite Fan: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 09:13 pm |
|
Evan;
I took a picture of the Strut Wire on mine showing the "hook". Although it's difficult to move the front part of the Cage, it will move. It's been awhile since I had one apart but as i remember that's how I removed the front section of the Cage.
Hope this helps.
John
Attached Image (viewed 91 times):
|
Jeff Rusnak
AFCA Member
|
Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 10:45 pm |
|
Hey Evan,
Their a not as tough to get off once you know how.  I have quite a few Hunter Zephair/Century 16" fans with the guard John has pictured.Those hooks you are refering to sometimes need to be pryed open a bit with a "LARGE" flat type screwdriver so the rear of the cage can clear it.Then you can press down on the cage and push the rear of the cage clear.Repeat four times and the cage is off.I believe that at the factory they closed them too tight.When you put the cage back on you may need a pair of pliers (I use Craftsman RoBo Grips as you can apply pressure evenly) so the hooks don't get tightened too much.I find this works best and makes fan life a little easier.On the 12" Hunter Zephair/Centurys you must remove the entire cage from the motor to get at the blades. A big  pain.Their is no other way,Hunter unfourtanetly  did not design the 12" cages like the 16"'s
Hope this helps,Jeff.
|
Evan Atkinson
AFCA Member
| Joined: | Tue Apr 18th, 2006 |
| Location: | Los Angeles, California USA |
| Posts: | 785 |
| Favorite Fan: | Backus ceiling fans 1890's |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 10:59 pm |
|
| Thanks Jeff. What's the standard set screw on the blade hub? Is it an Allan-wrench head? This one is...and is not budging. Seems strange to use an Allan-wrench headed screw.
|
Jeff Rusnak
AFCA Member
|
Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 11:16 pm |
|
| I've seem em both ways.With an allen set screw,and with a standard straight slot set screw.On the allen set screw I use a single allen wrench (standard not metric) that fits properly,put the long end in first and grab the short end that is on a 90 degree angle with a pair of pliers,then turn with a little force till the set screw comes loose.Their usually not real tight.If the set screw is tight use some WD 40,then try it again till the screw comes loose Always works for me. PS.If the blade is tough to get off,use a little WD 40 in the set screw hole,and with a large straight slot screw driver,tap on the rear of the blade hub,"AH GENTLY" !! That should get it off.
|
Evan Atkinson
AFCA Member
| Joined: | Tue Apr 18th, 2006 |
| Location: | Los Angeles, California USA |
| Posts: | 785 |
| Favorite Fan: | Backus ceiling fans 1890's |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Thu Aug 28th, 2008 07:43 am |
|
FINALLY got the durn thing off. Boy! Not a great design, by any stretch.
Thanks guys.
|
Current time is 05:06 am | |
|