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Michael Rathberger
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Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 01:58 pm |
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I received a wierd call on Friday about a post I did a few months ago regarding finds. I posted a pick of a fire gong I bought last year as I found no fans but it being ealy and electric, I thought it might be interesting for the members. The guy who called asking about it was not a member, he was from Illinois, and to be honest the call was unwelcome. Hindsight being 20/20, I shouldn't have posted, but where's the fun in that? It's too easy today to find someone and where they live on the web nowadays, a name will get you about all the information you need.
So, if the call names on the sight are known to members and for member use only, can we readdress this?
Thanks,
MR
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Mark Goodrich
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Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 06:43 pm |
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Michael Rathberger wrote: I received a wierd call on Friday about a post I did a few months ago regarding finds. I posted a pick of a fire gong I bought last year as I found no fans but it being ealy and electric, I thought it might be interesting for the members. The guy who called asking about it was not a member, he was from Illinois, and to be honest the call was unwelcome. Hindsight being 20/20, I shouldn't have posted, but where's the fun in that? It's too easy today to find someone and where they live on the web nowadays, a name will get you about all the information you need.
So, if the call names on the sight are known to members and for member use only, can we readdress this?
Thanks,
MR
You make a good point, Mike. I suggest you send your thoughts directly to the Board, rather than trying to start a dialogue here; the Board will ultimately decide the issue.
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Tom Dreesen
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Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 10:13 pm |
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"Paranonia strikes deep, into your heart it will creep ..."
What's the problem Mike? This is the information age. You want to dissapear?? Better get off the grid entirely with the others in Idaho. Otherwise, public databases are just that, public. Own property, a car, signed up with a public utility, etc etc?
If so, then anyone with a little money can pretty much put together your life history. So what? Are you that interesting? I'm not.
Check out the current issue of Scientific American which devotes the entire issue to privacy in the info age. Bottom line, you don't have any. Better get used to it as it will only get worse.
Going anonymous on this site will be near about impossible. Member #1 through whatever and Guest # 1 to infinity? Glad I'm not the webmaster!
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Mark Goodrich
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Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 10:28 pm |
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Tom Dreesen wrote: "Paranonia strikes deep, into your heart it will creep ..."
What's the problem Mike? This is the information age. You want to dissapear?? Better get off the grid entirely with the others in Idaho. Otherwise, public databases are just that, public. Own property, a car, signed up with a public utility, etc etc?
If so, then anyone with a little money can pretty much put together your life history. So what? Are you that interesting? I'm not.
Check out the current issue of Scientific American which devotes the entire issue to privacy in the info age. Bottom line, you don't have any. Better get used to it as it will only get worse.
Going anonymous on this site will be near about impossible. Member #1 through whatever and Guest # 1 to infinity? Glad I'm not the webmaster!
Ah, Tom, it's not as bad as all that. Most forums allow users to pick their own names, just like ebay does. I used to use one or another noms de plume, but finally decided it was silly, and use my first name and initial most of the time. I dunno if the software used here can be easily jiggered to accept new user names if it goes that direction, but do I know the most commonly used forum software makes it dirt easy. If it bothers Mike, and others, and the Board agrees, heck, I don't care.
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Tom Dreesen
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Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 10:37 pm |
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So you get an email or a phone call, so what? Don't answer! I have a land line and am listed, but we don't answer that phone (It's mainly for the computer and emergencies, land lines rarely go down, not so for cable systems and cell towers), Caller ID!! Don't know the caller? Let them leave a message. I LIKE knowing who (at least who it is claimed to be) I am dealing with. Don't want to expose yourself? Don't post! Fairly simple.
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Russ Huber
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 01:33 am |
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Tom Dreesen wrote: Don't want to expose yourself? Don't post! Fairly simple.
Thanks for the heads up. I have never got a weird phone call from a fan dork. But do keep in mind that I very rarely post. 
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Tom Dreesen
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 08:33 am |
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"I have never got a weird phone call from a fan dork. "
Maybe Russ, but considering a few of your rare posts, some recipients of your phone calls might consider them, err.... "different", yea, that's it.
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Pete Moulds
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 09:21 am |
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Russ as a fully paid up member of the association of fan dorks, I wonder what constitutes a weird phone call?
Come on guys, let's face it, collecting fans is weird. When I have visitors to my fan workshop and store I see the look on their faces.
As for the privacy thing, it's simple, move out of the developed world. I seriously doubt if anyone can find a trail of information about yours truly from just the name. A google search brings only the Nick Loos post about me on the AFCA Forum. Of course moving countries every few years helps too. I am in the middle of my 21st move this week but happily still in Ma'adi.
Ma'adi is a suburb of Cairo and has 2 million people living here out of the 18 to 20 million in Cairo. Nobody knows the true figures. The last Census in 2005 found 73 million in Egypt but experts believe the true figure was nearer to 92 million. I say 'was' because the population grows here by 2.5% a year. That's almost 20 million invisible people!
Last edited on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 09:40 am by Pete Moulds
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Michael Rathberger
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 02:00 pm |
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Tom Dreesen wrote: "Paranonia strikes deep, into your heart it will creep ..."
What's the problem Mike? This is the information age. You want to dissapear?? Better get off the grid entirely with the others in Idaho. Otherwise, public databases are just that, public. Own property, a car, signed up with a public utility, etc etc?
If so, then anyone with a little money can pretty much put together your life history. So what? Are you that interesting? I'm not.
Check out the current issue of Scientific American which devotes the entire issue to privacy in the info age. Bottom line, you don't have any. Better get used to it as it will only get worse.
Going anonymous on this site will be near about impossible. Member #1 through whatever and Guest # 1 to infinity? Glad I'm not the webmaster!
Whatever Tom. The point was I don't enjoy (nor would I think others would) somebody who has no affiliation with this site call me at 10:30 on a Friday night about an item I posted about 3 months ago and the fact they know who I am because you have to use your full name to post and they can find my phone number as easily as it's available in today's age. An ID would solve that problem was the only point I made.
I'm not talking about "living in Idaho" or "dropping off the grid," but you can do simple things to prevent stuff like this from happening, which was again the only point. But I defer to the board, please accept this as a formal request.
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Joe Bourn
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 02:24 pm |
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As a member of a couple of other forums (that allow pseudonyms), I can promise it encourages mischief on the part of some individuals. All it takes is one or two of those 'cyber-jerks' to make the forum experience problematic for the rest of the participants. This is underscored by the AFCA open concept allowing a willingness to allow guests to post and send PMs.
Now, admittedly those forums are not populated by folks as nice as those of AFCA, but I can promise you the downside outweighs the upside by a substantial amount.
It ain't broke; don't fix it.
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William Schaub
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 06:27 pm |
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Joe Bourn wrote: As a member of a couple of other forums (that allow pseudonyms), I can promise it encourages mischief on the part of some individuals. All it takes is one or two of those 'cyber-jerks' to make the forum experience problematic for the rest of the participants. This is underscored by the AFCA open concept allowing a willingness to allow guests to post and send PMs.
Now, admittedly those forums are not populated by folks as nice as those of AFCA, but I can promise you the downside outweighs the upside by a substantial amount.
It ain't broke; don't fix it.
I agree there is some measure of accountability this way round. I also don't really mind getting calls from fan nuts.
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