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Kim Frank AFCA Member

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Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2009 08:04 pm |
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| We are going to putting on four seminars for Fan Fair. Are there any topics attendees would like to see presented? I've turned down the requests to teach "How to make an ass of ones self by posting on the forum" and "How to beat a dead horse". Let us know and we'll find the right people to present them to you. Thanks........ Last edited on Sat Jun 6th, 2009 06:51 pm by Kim Frank
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Nicholas Denney AFCA Member

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Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2009 10:38 pm |
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Kim Frank wrote: I've turned down the requests to teach "How to make an ass of yourself by posting on the forum" and "How to beat a dead horse".
  
Are there any "reserve" topics? I can't think of anything that really hasn't been explored already or really needs a lot of explanation. We've had everything from Coin-Op "destruction" to motor rewinding to electroplating. It would be nice if there was a seminar on badge/tag restoration but I think that that's been done too. I wish I could be there this year to do a seminar on mikarta polishing... 
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Kim Frank AFCA Member

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Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2009 11:55 pm |
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| Nick, this is a request for topics the collectors want to see presented. Tag restoration, blade balancing, simple motor repair, whatever fits the needs. Maybe some fan history? Tell us what you'd like to see and we'll try to make it happen. One seminar that will be presented is using a laser level to assist in applying pinstripes, being put on by board god Steve Sherwood, in the flesh......... Last edited on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 12:53 am by Kim Frank
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Nicholas Denney AFCA Member

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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 12:07 am |
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| How about a seminar on rotor balancing? I have a couple of fans whose motors vibrate a bit when run w/ out the blade and could use some grinding down or whatever is needed to balance them. I guess you would need a lathe for that though...
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Jeff Rusnak AFCA Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 04:28 am |
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I'm sure that John Mc Comas will be there doing blade balancing and I always team up with him busting him about doing it right and I plan on attending this year,SSOOOOO I volunteer to help out on the blade balancing and strobing if there is a session this year at Fan Fair !!! Jeff.
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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 04:30 am |
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Hey Kim...how about making simple repro parts from scratch...for the do it yourselfer...guards, S wires, struts, badges....i would be happy to give up some freebie scale drawings/Templates...has that been done to much already?....
fusion blade balancing?
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Kim Frank AFCA Member

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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 10:28 am |
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Good idea Jeff, blade balancing is always a popular subject and seems to have received some attention lately here. Let's see if we can get John to put on a class.
Excellent suggestion Todd. I don't believe that has ever been done since I've been around. Rick Hill put on a great class about metal casting in '07. How about showing everyone how to do it? The repro parts fabricating, that is.....not sure about the other.
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Ron Powell AFCA Member

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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 01:40 pm |
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Kim, PM sent
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John McComas AFCA Member

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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 05:21 pm |
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Jeff Rusnak wrote: I'm sure that John Mc Comas will be there doing blade balancing and I always team up with him busting him about doing it right and I plan on attending this year,SSOOOOO I volunteer to help out on the blade balancing and strobing if there is a session this year at Fan Fair !!! Jeff.
I had actually hoped for a cute female assistant, but if Jeff promises to not bid against
me on any more "sparkly Westy fans" with my name on them, then I would be willing
to do a stroboscopic symmetry and static balancing demo. If it would be possible to be in an area where I could dim the lights, that would be a real plus...
I still have my Ron Jeter "adjustment tool too!
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John McComas AFCA Member

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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 05:26 pm |
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Nicholas Denney wrote: How about a seminar on rotor balancing? I have a couple of fans whose motors vibrate a bit when run w/ out the blade and could use some grinding down or whatever is needed to balance them. I guess you would need a lathe for that though...
I think you could take care of rotor balancing with a set of "level ways"
The best/cheapest I've found is a Dubro 499 prop balancer.
You can use a Dremel Moto Tool grinder or a belt sander to remove weight on the
heavy side.
If you find the rotor shaft bent, then that's another story, and might require lathe
turning...
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Ron Jeter AFCA Member

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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 05:33 pm |
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| John: I have forgot what the Ron Jeter adjustment is?! - could I have a photo?
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Kim Frank AFCA Member

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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 06:50 pm |
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| John, that is most excellent. I have you down for a seminar in a room where the lights can be dimmed. The room will probably also have a vibrating bed and a hot tub with a slide into it. Any problem with that?
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Kim Frank AFCA Member

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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 07:04 pm |
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Ron Powell wrote: Kim, PM sent
Ron, you are one sick individual. I love it.... but I don't think that particular seminar would be approved by the board. Besides, where are we gonna find a burro and a chimp? And speaking of that, Did you know that the board members are all over at the Luxury AFCA condo this weekend, drinking beer and making fun of us "common" members.
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John McComas AFCA Member

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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 07:18 pm |
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Ron Jeter wrote: John: I have forgot what the Ron Jeter adjustment is?! - could I have a photo?
Bring back memories of "Blade Ajustment Tool"?
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John McComas AFCA Member

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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 07:19 pm |
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Kim Frank wrote: John, that is most excellent. I have you down for a seminar in a room where the lights can be dimmed. The room will probably also have a vibrating bed and a hot tub with a slide into it. Any problem with that?
MMMMmmmmmmm Hot tub!!
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Ron Powell AFCA Member

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Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 09:08 pm |
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Kim, I know where we can get the chimp, if I'm not WRONG!
Oh! And I think I seen the board members over there today, are these the ones your talking about!
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Jeff Rusnak AFCA Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 7th, 2009 02:28 am |
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John McComas wrote: Jeff Rusnak wrote: I'm sure that John Mc Comas will be there doing blade balancing and I always team up with him busting him about doing it right and I plan on attending this year,SSOOOOO I volunteer to help out on the blade balancing and strobing if there is a session this year at Fan Fair !!! Jeff.
I had actually hoped for a cute female assistant, but if Jeff promises to not bid against
me on any more "sparkly Westy fans" with my name on them, then I would be willing
to do a stroboscopic symmetry and static balancing demo. If it would be possible to be in an area where I could dim the lights, that would be a real plus...
I still have my Ron Jeter "adjustment tool too!
Don't think I'd look good in a skirt and a blonde wig John,that is unless your desprate !! Maybe we could get a female member to assist and hold the tools for us sort of like on the tv show Home Improvment ?? HUMM !!
AWW cummon now you've taken all the fun out of bidding on those custom sparkly Westy fans.I thought it was fun bidding and seeing your jaw almost drop to the floor when the bidding went up to $80.00 bucks.
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John McComas AFCA Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 01:27 pm |
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Kim Frank wrote: John, that is most excellent. I have you down for a seminar in a room where the lights can be dimmed. The room will probably also have a vibrating bed and a hot tub with a slide into it. Any problem with that?
Any chance I could take the FRIDAY seminar time slot at 1:00??
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Stan Adams AFCA Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 04:19 pm |
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| John, I love your avatar! I sure do miss Jim. Last edited on Tue Jun 9th, 2009 01:35 am by Stan Adams
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Kim Frank AFCA Member

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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 07:20 pm |
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| We have two seminars on board and two more to come up with. Anyone coming to Fan Fair with a special topic they'd like to learn about or present? So far we have Blade balancing using a strobe and Applying pinstripes with the aid of a laser level. Seminars can run from a half to an hour or so long. Let us know. Thanks.
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 12:45 am |
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Well I am not to sure what to make of this thread! 
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Kim Frank AFCA Member

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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 12:52 am |
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| Alex?????? What are you having difficulties with?? Last edited on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 12:55 am by Kim Frank
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 01:17 am |
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OH I don't know.... Hot tubs .... wrestlers....... chimps...... Yah see thats the normal stuff but no one has mentioned free beer! Female assistants sounds good!

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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 01:19 am |
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John?? is that your hot tub?? which one is the wife? or? 
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Kim Frank AFCA Member

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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 10:32 am |
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| The tub is at the AFCA luxury condo. John bought it during his tenure as Webmaster, a sad chapter, in which huge amounts of money were siphoned off the website to pay for his insatiable tastes.
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 06:18 pm |
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| The one about pin striping sounds good to me.
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Will Guidry AFCA Member

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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 08:36 pm |
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| Patina....to touch or not to touch
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Dave Gavel AFCA Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 05:14 pm |
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| How to rework fan cages,how to rewire coils and motors,you have some members that have the skill, as they age have a school, pay the teachers, make a tape, or dvd . Dave
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Kim Frank AFCA Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 07:36 pm |
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| Dave, I'm working on getting a brass fabricator to show the workings of cage repair/fabrication. Also had a suggestion from a restorer to go over what NOT to do and the things that can and do go wrong during restorations. Any thoughts out there?
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Mike Collins AFCA Member

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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 12:27 am |
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How about blade removal? That seems to be one of the most often ask questions on the forum. Especially the single bearing Emersons. Thats one of the most important steps in a restoration. You don't want to start a restoration by destroying a motor trying to remove the blade.
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Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 03:44 pm |
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| Thanks. Dave
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Kim Frank AFCA Member

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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 09:57 pm |
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| How about a question and answer session, with a panel of experts in motor repair, brass fabrication, basic restoration, and paint?
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Michael Mirin AFCA Member

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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 01:47 am |
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| How about basic troubling shooting?Showing things like if you have a speed coil,A broken wire or bad motor?
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