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Brad Chaney
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 12:19 am |
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I am cleaning up and trying to get an idea of how much work this 1700 pedestal will need. I originally thought the fan it would be a total loss and was just going to use it as a parts fan and keep the pedestal portion for use with another 1700. As I have been cleaning it I am surprised by how well I have been able to clean up the rust from chrome. Depending on the motor I may be able to save everything but the blade.
The blade is broken and has a few small nicks and scratches. I would like to test the motor but don't have another blade to try it with. I saw a post a few days ago that mentioned having a freshy blade repaired. Can this be done? The break is very clean, I could glue it easily and feel confident in my ability to reference correctly. I would hate to have it explode and ruin the cage or something else. Can you fill the small nicks? Can you glue the break? I hope to use this as a daily runner eventually. Has anyone been brave enough to try this? What have you used? How did you do it? How did it work for you?
Thanks again for the help. Brad.
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Ron Powell
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 12:27 am |
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Brad, I wouldn't try it! If it was off just the slightest the vibration would break it loose eventually and BANG and maybe even hurt some one severely. I'm assuming the blade is cast aluminum so conventional welding is out all though there is a way they weld it, I just can't remember what they call it anymore. It's what we use to do with aluminum intakes when they'd crack or strip out. It's Heliarc, you may want to look into that but, it'll have to be rebalanced after.
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Richard Larson
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 12:31 am |
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I personally would not want to be anywhere near that if it were to just be glued. Thats very near the hub which means most of the weight of the broken blade will be putting tremendous force on the break point. Think swinging a small fishing wieght on the end of a peice of line in a circle then change it to a very heavy weight.... I'd think it would need something substantial to reinforce the break before it's glued but I'm not really sure what. I think you are right though in that someone has mentioned repairing one at some point. Maybe there is a remote chance someone has a blade for it....
It looks like one of the phenolic resin blades to me. Maybe there is some sort of adhesive that chemically bonds that stuff versus just gluing.
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Duane Bright
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 12:37 am |
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The frame on my 1000 lb. motorcycle is tig welded cast aluminum, so I imagine it could be repaired by a good welder. The break would have to be 'v'd and refilled, so as long as the joint is flush after the repair it shouldn't be so far out of balance it couldn't be redone.
What do you have to lose? Take the pieces to a certified welder in your area and see what he thinks.
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Duane Bright
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 12:40 am |
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| If it's a plastic/resin blade, disregard my earlier post. lol.
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Ron Powell
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 12:47 am |
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Duane Bright wrote:
What do you have to lose?
Your HEAD? But hey, a lot of people don't use theirs anyway.*
* injecting humor.
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Duane Bright
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 12:48 am |
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Not my head, it can't fly that far. 
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Russ Huber
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 01:39 am |
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Brad, short and simple.......find a replacement. Trust me.
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John McComas
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 01:54 am |
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I would cyanoacrylate glue it if the following conditions were met:
1. No large pieces missing. Must be clean break.
2. I degreased the heck out of it with Simple Green and dried it thoroughly.
3. I glued it and didn't touch it for two days.
4. Added more glue to below surface voids, and let dry a day or two between apps.
5. Static balance blade before running it.
I've done this before on big Vornado Bakelite blades years ago, and they have not
failed yet. CLEAN Bakelite and cyanoacrylate bonds seem as good as original.
I've also done this on Ribbonaire necks, and Freshy Bakelite fan bodies.
...then again, I might not run the fan in the same room with the baby or the good china, cut crystal, Aladdin Lamp collections, etc....
You could buy a 17" desk fan with good blade and swap, then give the glued blade
fan to an ex wife, somebody you hate at work, etc....
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Adrian Parrado
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 03:59 am |
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| i may have a #17 blade in storage.
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Brad Chaney
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 07:29 pm |
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Thanks Guys! I love this place. I think I am going to try both repairing it, just to see what I can do, and getting a replacement blade so I can use this as a daily runner.
I will be placing a post in the BST area for a new blade or fan when I am sure of the motor.
Thanks again, Brad.
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 08:55 pm |
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i just found the blade.
so let me know if u need it.
do not risk a glue fix - not for everyday use.
you will be in pain if that breaks loose.
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Brad Chaney
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Posted: Wed Jul 8th, 2009 07:33 pm |
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PM sent. Thanks for keeping an eye out for it Adrian. (no pun intended)
Brad
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