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Michael Jucknat
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 02:59 am |
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Hi everybody,
I just baught a british GEC 16" brass fan on ebay germany
It's said that it is in perfect working condition and the seller seemed very serious to me.
I was wondering if I had made a good deal... well I paid about 250$ (including shipping)
Has anybody an idea if that is a correct price??
Furthermore I'm happy about any comment on this fan for I haven't seen one like this before.
Here's the link (don't know if it's working)
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=270414310008
Thanks an greetings from Europe
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Matt Clark
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 03:43 am |
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Hi, the fan is probably 1938, not 1908. Nice looking fan though.
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Steve Stephens
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 03:59 am |
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| What a neat looking cage design!
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Michael Jucknat
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 05:55 pm |
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yes I like very much too, it's definitely not 1908...
I'm looking forward to having it 
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Tony Gilbert
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 06:48 pm |
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I can't be exact, but I'd give it an approximate date of between 1938 and 1948. It might be towards the end of that range as it has brass (or copper?) blades - many earlier examples are marked 'war finish' and have painted steel blades.
The 16" models are harder to find than the 12", but this particular model isn't super-rare. Price-wise it's hard to say - two 12" examples recently went for much more than I would have expected on eBay in the UK. Given the prices achieved by items 290316253353 and 180359848510, it doesn't look unreasonable.
Let us know what it's like when it arrives.
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Pete Moulds
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Posted: Sun Jul 5th, 2009 03:38 pm |
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I have a 16" example which I run in my bedroom all night. It is extremely reliable and virtually bomb-proof.
I agree with the 30s to 40s date and I suspect pre-war. They turn up in Cairo often stamped WD for war department as they were brought in by the British Army for the North Africa Campaign.
The struts are unusual being thin walled steel tubes and flattened and sprung at the outer ends. The cage is held in place by the sprung ends. The struts are very difficult to replace and often missing. If I find a fan with one or two struts and no cage I will try to buy it cheap just for the struts.
For a complete fan with cage the price is about right.
The blades on mine are either steel or brass and they are then copper plated. After this the blades are darkened using Liver of Sulphur to get an antiqued look which was fashionable in the 30s. To show the copper underneath they usually have three horizontal greasy finger strokes across the front of each blade. The grease stopped the darkening at these points. If you can clean the crud off the blades but keep the darkened surface it will look more genuine. Some people have cleaned them back to the copper plating and in cases of the brass blades, to the brass underneath.
I suspect that originally they were all made with brass blades and then moved to steel later after improvement in steel manufacturing...but this is a guess.
The painted steel cage is very pure art deco which would date the design from the mid 20s to late 40s. I have seen an earlier version of the same fan but with a more traditional brass cage. So the fan design pre-dates the cage design. The cages are very striking and in the past an AFCA member said they were very Frank lloyd Wright.
If you need any spares for your fan I have some stumps here and can send you parts.
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