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Andrew Block
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 10:39 am |
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I picked a few of these up out of a wonderful mid-century elementary school thats unfortunately being torn down. It appears to be a heavy aluminum bracket and a slightly off center outlet. The fan would mount on the threaded screw and plug neatly into the outlet right above. The outlet also rotates in the socket.
I remembered seeing something similiar so I whipped out my 1925 edition of Sweet's Architectual Resources and there was a Frank Adam Co. outlet listed that was similiar. Below is a photo of the outlet listed thats similiar.
As a side note, I'm a child of the health times but when I got these things, I thought the plates were brass until I cleaned them and the interior and exterior seemed to be covered in what appeared to be a thick film of nicotine and tar. Was smoking allowed in schools in the 50's and 60's? These appear untouched other than the nastiness of the tar.
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Joe Bourn
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 01:11 pm |
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Andrew Block wrote: Was smoking allowed in schools in the 50's and 60's? These appear untouched other than the nastiness of the tar.
Only in the teacher's lounge. Smoking by students in the bathroom would get you a stay in detention hall or kicked out of school for repeated infractions.
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 02:33 pm |
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http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=F9ZlAAAAEBAJ&dq=1244454
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=QFtkAAAAEBAJ&dq=1939645 
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Andrew Block
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 06:41 pm |
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Wow Russ is quick on this one! It looks very similiar to the second incarnation.
I was asking because I did notice that alot of the light fixtures have what appear to be nictotine too. I could imagine a Mad Men-esque scene of a teacher standing at the chalkboard teaching her class the A B C's with a Lucky Strike in hand.
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Posted: Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 07:26 pm |
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I don't recall ever seeing a teacher smoking in a Jr. High or High School classroom in South Texas during the 50's or 60's. Can't say what went on in the Teacher's lounges during those years. However smoking was a common practice in courtrooms, by lawyers and Judges only, as late as into the 80's in South Texas. It was slowly phased out in the courtrooms sometime during the 80's, but was still allowed in the hallways in the Courthouses into the 90's.
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 04:18 am |
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I've never seen those fan hanger outlets before... quite interesting. I suppose it is along the lines of the clock outlets that are seen in schools, but for a fan. I like it!
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 05:44 am |
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I recently made 50 of these wall mount outlets for a guy in Cincinatti who is restoring an old building and plans to hang some antique fans from them. He said that he was going to post an ad or write an article for the Fan Collector magazine, but its been several months ago now so I dont know what happened. If I can find the pics of the ones I made I will post them.
Darryl
PS. I found the original patent, #1829896 and studied it, but when I started making these things I found that I could improve on them in several ways. On the originals the aluminum cover plate was very thin and just a stamped piece only .030" thick or so. The ones I made you will see I used solid 1/4" thick aluminum plate and milled out the back so that the plate and screws that hold the plate would fit nicely into a small pocket on the back side of the cover plate.
I was working on this project back when the Memphis fan fair was going on but did not get much interest when I told several people about them, so I only made the 50 that my customer wanted. If there is enough interest in these wall mounts, I will make more of them, but I will not make just 2 or 3. If I can get enough orders to make another run of 50 or so I will be glad to make them. Main reason is that I cant buy just a short piece of material. The 1/4" X 4" aluminum flat bar I bought to make the coverplates was a 8' length of material. And so on with the flat sst plates for the back, the brass rod for the screws, and the 1/4" rods for the guides, and so on.
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 05:45 am |
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Darryl Hudson
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 05:46 am |
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| This is a pic of one that I made next to an original. Attached Image (viewed 107 times):
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 05:51 am |
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| This shows the back side of the coverplate. I made these from solid aluminum flat bar and milled out the back of the coverplate so the other components would fit nicely inside, plus add some strength. Attached Image (viewed 106 times):
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 05:54 am |
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| These are the steel cross locks that pulls everything up to the wall box. I changed the thread on the pieces and also the brass screw. The original had a coarser thread but a finer thread yields more strength so I went a little finer on the pitch of the thread. Attached Image (viewed 104 times):
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 05:55 am |
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 05:57 am |
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Darryl Hudson
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 05:57 am |
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 05:59 am |
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 06:04 am |
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The links that Russ posted above is a little different design than the ones I made. See patent #1829896. The ones that I made were even a little different than this.
Cool idea, plus eliminates the need for a long length of power cord. About 6" of cord is all you need.
We used store bought Hubbel plug recepticles on these hangers I made.
I only made one extra and kept that one for myself.
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 10:11 am |
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Darryl,
Nice work! I don't know where you find the time with all you do.
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 01:07 pm |
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| I would be interested in some of these, but how do you install these to support the weight of a fan? Will they work on a sheet rock wall?
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 02:17 pm |
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Hey Doug,
Yes, I forgot to mention; there are two items that you need to complete this contraption. One is obviously the plug recepticle, which you can get at Home Depot; the other item is the metal box. These parts that I made just mounts to a regular plug outlet/junction box that mounts in the wall that you can also get at Home Depot. It will work in a sheetrock wall, but you need to cut the hole next to one of your 2 X 4 wall studs and nail the box to the stud. We used the metal ones, there are also plastic boxes but I recommend the metal ones.
Here's an old-time photo attached below. If you look you will see a fan on the left wall near the back of the room. On the same wall more toward the front of the picture you will see one of these wall mounts above a thermostat. They are stragetically located around the room.
If I can find the other photos I have somewhere I will post them.
Darryl
PS. I can't cut the patent drawing from the pdf file I have it on, but the filer's name is E. M. Glasgow and the file date is Sept. 30, 1925, and approved date is Nov. 3, 1931.
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 03:20 pm |
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Thanks Darryl,
Thats what I kinda figured, but wasn't sure how that all worked. In reality, these would best need to be installed when you build or remodel I would think.
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Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 05:48 pm |
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Wow very nice Darryl! The one that I have just mounts to the electrical box using 2 screws so I'm sure it wouldn't support a heavy 16" fan. Maybe thats why the fans were mounted elsewhere and the lines run to them were surface mount conduit. Maybe they ordered 16" fans and figured these hooks wouldn't support them and so they were never used.
Darryl's model looks a whole lot more sturdy.
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