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Harley Wang
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 07:16 am |
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I just receive my first TWO pancake.
but the seller didn't package well.they kill both cage.
some one have them for sell?
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Peter Garcia
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 07:36 am |
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| wow sorry to hear about that, although I would recommend that you try to post some larger pictures of the extent of damage that there is so we can all see what it is you got. maybe some more up close in detail of the breakage and parts list you might need. I sure there's people here that would be more then glad to help you in anyway like they have helped me. no where are you located? Last edited on Fri Oct 30th, 2009 07:37 am by Peter Garcia
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Harley Wang
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 07:57 am |
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Sorry.i am not in USA.broken one is really nice origianl one before brake.
I told to seller 10 times must take off the cage and ship in separate box.he told me
can't take off the blade.but cage off.and now that will must to weld.wish i can do it
look like original.
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 02:34 pm |
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Harley, Instead of buying a whole cage, your cage looks like it could be repaired fairly easy buy one of our highly skilled members. You should get in touch with Nick Loos and if he can't I'm sure he'll point you to one who will.
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 05:51 pm |
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I think that cage can be repaired. The rear ring looks like it was joined by a brass pin. Drill out both ends of the rear ring where they join and rejoin with new pin or even use a brass crimp connector or piece of tubing as done on some cages.
It is common for the S-wires to break at the rear ring on the "pinned" cage style used from 1901 through 1908. Some people just shorten all the wires and re-insert in the rear ring. I think a small steel pin could be silver soldered to connect the broken wire to what's left in the rear ring. You will have to drill a small hole through the remaining piece in the rear ring and into the broken off piece. I have not seen a repair done that way. Could it be??
Do you have photos of your other cage (the 1900?) Harley?
Save those badges as they are very hard to find and were used only on the 1899 through early 1903 10 wire cages. 1899 and 1900 were attached by a brass "clip" soldered to the inside of the badge; later ones were attached by a stud on the back of the badge and a nut to hold it on.
For anyone contemplating having a GE "pinned" cage sent to you it would almost be necessary to have it double boxed and make sure it can't get crushed at all. They are fragile. Almost half of the wires on my pancakes are broken at the rear ring. Same for other "pinned" cages like Westinghouse, etc. Double box them.
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 08:42 pm |
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Hello Steve
Yes i had told to the seller must take off the cage and blade.ship in another box.
and he told me can't take off the blade.but when i received the fan.
I almost cry .and i cost 20 sec take off the blade.but i am worrie to bent it back will
brake the hub.the EBAY seller told me that's my problem.if he is at TAIWAN.I will must
fight with him.
the cage i will try to repair.i like all original.that really bad to me.
another cage is just safe to my home.the seller pacakge very well.
but he didn't package the fan body very well.
and about the cage badge.they look like same.but the struts are different.
broken one have three same and different one under the cage.
another one cage have same struts.but the cage had wild very ugly.
all 10 wire look like this even badly.
I think my both cage badges were latter pancake.
about the switch plate.i don't understand what is two rivets at 1 and 7 clock place
and another one didn't have hole.
this one didn't have any hole.
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Peter Garcia
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 10:12 pm |
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| wow!!! if you paid with pay pal then your coverd I would file a disput and get your money back!!!
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Posted: Fri Oct 30th, 2009 10:29 pm |
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Harley, that's a shame what happened to your treasured pancakes. Many sellers do not know how to pack a fan. In the future have them read this-
http://www.fancollectors.org/info/shipping.htm
Also you should tell shippers any other information on how to pack the exact fan you bought as different fans do require different packing methods and fine-tuning of the recommended methods.
BOTH of your pancakes are 1901 models. You have a SWIVEL/TRUNNION frame fan and a SWIVEL frame fan and the pancakes were made both ways in most years. The trunnion fan is the one that uses the different strut at the bottom which allows the fan to pivot downwards. The SWIVEL frame cannot pivot downwards so doesn't need that different strut.
I hope the blade damage isn't too bad to straighten the blades and CAST hubs. Be careful with the cast hub if you have to straighten it. I don't know how to do that.
The broken off "pin" between the base and motor of the swivel motor may be easy to fix. I don't know how it is attached to the motor but it should go through the base and be double nutted under the base. It looks like one cage may have already had some of the wires broken and fixed at the rear ring. The first thing I would do is to carefully bend the broken cages back to the proper shape and make them round. Then you can see how you might get them fixed.
SteveLast edited on Fri Oct 30th, 2009 10:35 pm by Steve Stephens
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Harley Wang
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Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 04:13 am |
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That's why i am so angry.
I won that pancake.and you just sent me PM first time.
you told me that.and i sent it to Seller.
and i also told him if didn't take off the cage.must be den't.
he told me he will do it.and he cost 2 hours to package it.
and also told me when my friend receive the pacakge must don't open it.
if want repackage must take another 2 hours.if the damage is find early
i must open a disput at pay pal.but when i receive the fan was over 45 days.
This is ebay seller account cjschaadt
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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 03:36 am |
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Harley, Did it take 45 days to get to you? If so, I'd tell PayPal that and there shouldn't be a problem. You can call PayPal and probably get more action. Here's their number 1-888-221-1161. I've always had better luck calling them, unlike eBay there kind and courteous.
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Harley Wang
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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 06:10 am |
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Hello
Thanks your infor.
i will try to contac them.
Thanks
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